And, how many times have you read about a graduation speech being edited by the administration because it mentions God or Jesus? “It’s a way of respect,” said one resident. How Muslim women can wear those burkas when it’s over 100 degrees outside is beyond me. The welfare bums ask politely because they’re in America. WAKE UP!!! ThinkerNJ, how does this sign violate your constitutional rights? Thank God most true religions recognize how filthy just looking at the human body can be. Change language ... United Talmudical Academy, the largest of three Hasidic school systems serving roughly 14,500 children in and around Kiryas Joel. All Americans have to be vigilant against fundamentalist beliefs trampling our civil rights. This is clearly a violation of free speech, no matter what one does to respect another’s religion, what about their respect for our free speech rights? Why is this a story? of men and women was lashed 39 times to make him 1. Even on the hottest of days, most residents cover up from head to toe. well the scowling women would beg to differ! “Please don’t walk 10 feet behind your husband here” “please feel free to say what is on your mind here”. So it really needs to work both ways. No Bozo, that’s the policy for many Muslim countries. Did you even read the story Ann. And you think your freedom is being taken away because you want to dress like a hoochie. The negative comments are born out of ignorance and the prejudice you accuse them of. The “world” is in serious shape…Thank God for someone trying to set a standard of decency…. LOL, Trace345, ME-SHELL isn’t welcome at my place regardless which designer outfit she wears…. The long-suffering Reds’ fans finally have something to get excited about! Is it too much to ask for men to dress like men and the women not to walk around in the modern day uniform of the tart. Don’t paint a picture of religious Jews based on one community. Of course not. Hey “not offended” why don’t you have something to say, you have NOTHING to say unless someone says something first. Example the “N” word or certain phrases regarding racial or sexual names that can only be used by members of that group. G-d bless you, my friend! Hey Appaled!! So now Jewish people are going to institute Sharia (halachic) law and force Christians and others to separate the genders, etc.? Now, given that it is a Jewish community, I still wouldn’t want to go there. I live in an upscale mostly white community. If they dont want anyone dressing like that then close it off to anyone who’s not Jewish but they wont you know why because of money$$$ they dont want you dressing a certain way but have no problem still taking your money. Always keep covered up for God. Lighten up dude your towel is wrapped too tight! Wearing short pants or short sleeved shirts is animal like? If it was the Taliban, you would be legally required to comply and killed if you refused. You would be vilified and called a racist. Yes we can imagine what it is like. Lani Santo is executive director of Footsteps, an organization that has offered guidance to more than 1,000 ultra-Orthodox Jewish men and women who are looking to explore the world outside their childhood neighborhoods. I agree I am tired of everytime somone is asked to show a little common courtesy (from a conservetive point of view) we are met with hatred and angree language calling us names like bigot, homophobe, racist or just plain intolerent. You guys can’t equate modesty with Hitler! there is many beach front towns that prohibit bikinis or barefoot, The difference here is that the “group” as you called it doesn’t own the town. If I get private funds, and don’t put it on public land, can I put up a sign: Welcom to XXXX, Please maintain the quality of life by NOT playing loud RAP music from your car, wearing baggy pants that reveal your boxer shorts. Welcome! I wonder if any one has reported on this communities incredible amount of charity and organizations dedicated to helping others in financial, medical or emotional needs. Parker’s obviously free to be a moron. It’s not a violation of one’s constitutional rights to get ASKED to do something. K. Joel is a city in the UNITED STATES. Then they took our clothes and stuffed us into ovens or they shot us lke diseased animals. Kiryas Joel Village and allied religious groups violate the Constitution and take control of federal and state courts. of Kiryas Joel, NY. Private property. Would you intentionally wear a string bikini to a black tie dinner? “I feel like my constitutional rights are being violated,” said Tyrone Wheeler, a day laborer in the village seeking work. You might if you were a woman. And it is falling. A sign in Kiryas Joel, the Hasidic Jewish enclave, is evoking mixed reaction. They are letting you know that they have standards (do you?) I looked up the town and you’re pulling those numbers out of your behind….why? View the profiles of people named Kiryas Joel. It is a respectful request, so what is so terrible about this. Log into your account. Just to be obnoxious? More than two-thirds of residents live below the federal poverty line and 40% receive food stamps. Admittedly off topic, but are you the Cowboy from the iVote servers? Imagine if it was a Muslim village and they asked women visitors to cover their hair ? Imagine if it was a Muslim city and they didn’t allow non-Muslims there at all. Start the day smarter. The cloths worn these days show more then necessary. Read the last few lines in the article. If you are embarrased to be a Jew then you don’t have to be one. OMG! There is a big difference between a polite request (as seen on the sign) and a Court Order or a City Ordinance. The best thing people could do is not bend to this mentality and push the Hasdic people towards spiritual freedom. If i lived there i wouldnt go into that area on principle typical Jewish we dont like you but we’ll take your money addittude. to all you guys that say this discriminates against women, please read the sign. At least if you violate a rule, they won’t stone you, whip you, cut off a hand, or slit your throat. Sheesh! Jimmy, if your freedoms trump their values and sensitivities, then you might be an American, but you’re not a nice person. Or hold hands? your password. Me, I’ve always appreciated a good looking woman in short shorts and a halter top! NOT ANYMORE!! Information and translations of Kiryas in the most comprehensive dictionary definitions resource on … And there is no official “consequence”. It’s only a modest request to respect their customs. No one wants to see your nasty bits hanging out. Couldn’t they scowl at people before the sign was put up? Kiryas Joel-area historical tornado activity is above New York state average. its only respect that is being asked Well done. We’re not Shariai compliant–yet. Then you’d have been ranting about Shaira law being imposed in America. No one is forcing you to shelve your freedoms. Maybe we could use a little more shame. As long as they were just being ASKED and not being forcibly shaved; what’s the problem? LMFAO@U. Lazy bums?? I see no difference. It seems to be missing. Sorry to say but if the note offends the immoral ppl around then it should be taken down. NOVEMBER!!!! However, everyone here is really missing the best part of this article. People have lost the sense of modesty…How “ignorant” to be in public with have your breasts being seen and not even caring about it….Let this rest…Biblical speaking, for any who Believe the Bible’s teachings, we are instructed to be modest. Same with the Ground Zero mosque. People should have opinions about facts and issues, not follow some damn doctrine of a common belief. So Kiryat Joel is full of people who consider it their sacred duty to commit huge resources to help those in need. Please show a link to the figures you are referencing. This town is not a house, its not a gated community. Yuck. if you don’t like it, don’t go there. Fundamentalists pull the human spirit back and weigh down the soul with their religious superstitions and the shame and guilt that comes with that. The Hassids are fotgetting that. These people banded together to form thier own community (sound strikingly familiar to our own founding fathers??? Because conflict creates emotional tension, which is apparently Bruce’s modus operandi. I cant understand all hateful commentators here, kiryea joel is 100% a chasidc village with 3 000 families living there, they don’t need any outsiders to shop there, their economy is supported by its residents and all they did is asking in a respectful and nice way to dress modestly the children of the people living there are never exposed to that kind of dressing like you see in the video of that lady. Talk about “learnin somethin.”. Women are to follow 6 feet behind the man? It’s polite and gets the point across. and they are asking for your cooperation. Hurray for Jessica’s nice bottom! This isn’t “fundamentalist beliefs trampling our civil rights”, it’s them making a request well within their rights. Yes it is a request, but if you do not comply they locals make you feel uncomfortable! Hey Colorado – an ELBOW is gonna cause young boys to lose their minds?? BTW YES I KNOW WE MEN ARE ALL PIGS… BUT THAT”S WHY YOU LOVE US!!!! WAKE UP. Hisgaros B’Umos? Thanks Jessica, It’s privately paid for sign on private property. If these clowns don’t like the way we dress, let them go to Israel and practice their intolerance there. It’s like having a sign up asking people not to litter. It’s not sharia law. This must be a joke!!! but the mentch thing to do is, when someone comes into the community dressed in a way that might offend the community’s standards, someone should offer a shawl or coat so that the guest is welcome in the way our forefather Abraham taught us and politely request the honored guest put on the covering. Its not their private property that this young lady is seen entering. THE POLITICIANS AND BANKERS ARE ROBBING YOU BLIND. Then they tell us were we can eat, pray or say all the while making it harder just to walk my kids downtown without seeing what color thong the girl in front of us is wearing or the guy infront of us is wearing jeans that fall to his knees. I have a feeling they are going to see an influx of people visiting wearing t-shirts and shorts–just because they can. They are safe and peaceful and full of hard working, entrepreneurial helpful people. This might just backfire. There is no law or penalty. !” HA! This is The United States. 3. They aren’t burying people in the sand and stoning them for wearing the clothes. Just because I am orthodox? They are on their way thanks to Obama. If you want to express your opinion, please either learn to be polite or take them elsewhere. How many people have visited the amish in pennsylvania? Why is this so different? I appreciate what you are trying to say here, but that would REALLY cause an uproar. If the sign were taken down it would be their rights that are violated. THE JEWS ARE COMING!! Heck, Americans dress like slobs these days: men wearing hats in restaurants, pants worn below the buttocks, obese women in atrociously tight stretch pants with cellulite hanging out all over the place, vulgar language printed on clothes. I’d rather visit Kiryas Joel than clothing-optional Brattleboro VT where the town council voted that it was alright for teenagers to skateboard in the nude downtown. In Israel they WHIPPED a musician for playing to a COED audience. And to put a sign at the village entrance is offensive. Maybe they should move to Saudi Arabia or some other theocratic hellhole. Go back to your Shanties! If one wishes to comply with these requests thats fine. its simply a request ..nothing more GOSH get over it !!! But even so, passers-by who have spotted the sign near County Route 105 and Bakertown Road in Monroe have taken umbrage at what they see as an expectation to conform to one group’s religious beliefs and dress codes in a public place. Their asking not demanding. Exactly! They are asking a favor, without consequence. Idiot. whats next a nice stoning for non-compliance? Those Jews should be congratulated for their wisdom in this case, not criticized. Who the hell is watching out for our constitutional rights? Go live in a secular society. I’m sympathetic, but you lost me on that one. Hell no. Stop being stupid, please!!!!! If you want to express your opinion, please either learn to be polite or take them elsewhere. This isn’t about Muslims. And before you say, “That’s only one radical group and not the majority”, I would encourage you to actually read the Qu’ran and then consider making a statement. Maybe you should get a sense of humor instead of telling her to get a *@# life. It’s getting old. Only if it were a muslim community, but seeing that it’s Jewish, you’re in no danger. This is just a simple request, not a command. “I know it’s a request, and it certainly was a polite request,” said James Murphy of Highland Mills. Imaging hitching-hiking through the towns in the USA and trying to comply to every random sign? I just listed three for the free exercise of this community thereof. This is the first time I’ve seen “polite” and “Hasidic” in the same paragraph. I 100% agree with Rob. Sure, they wouldn’t have to comply, but it says more about the person being asked than the person making the request. She’d be free to ignore it anyway. There is all the difference in the world between a person or organization ASKING you politely to respect their customs and a group or, worst yet, govt forcing you to do it under penalty of torture or death! Is there an editor in the house? Sign in. If ignoring their request isn’t “disrespectful,” then what is? July 1, 2020. Holy Cow! No one is telling them they can’t dress as they please. If I came to you to tell you about Jesus Christ who loves you you would probably tell me off in your own way…but I have that right according to the civil right! This is a request that people act ‘civilized’ and not wear outfits that will cause young boys to lose their minds with fantasy about how easy a scantly dressed woman might be. Instead of scowling, offer (notice I said OFFER) something for the person to cover up. You all need to lighten up a bit…. If you allow the folks in the community to politely ASK, then you must allow and believe in the right of the anti-ground-zero mosque folks ask that the mosque not be built. ), so they could live in peace and not have to be offended by others who do not share the same standards. Just be respectful of others’ values. You can’t compare the treatment of women by SOME Muslims to this, a POLITE REQUEST that you are free to ignore. It is truly sad we have lost our manners. Different customs different folks they are merely making a request. So our Parents and Grandparents moved to the USA where we would be free to wear them and dress modestly in our own communities. Keep your religious beliefs and scowling attitudes to yourself and your community members. Carol, your exactly right, too many people in the country now days never learned to have respect others or themselves for that matter. Wish we could criminalize that at times. The following is from the Times Herald Record: A large new sign greets visitors as they cross over Route 17 on Forest Avenue and enter a world where the skirts and shirt sleeves are always long, regardless of the season. kids dont bring guns to school there…parents dont beat their kids to death there…spouses dont kill each other sooo get urself educated. The most trusted sign installation services in Kiryas are on Porch. You are free to ignore it if you wish. Actually, this is the way our country was intended to be. “The New York Civil Liberties Union said because the signs were paid for privately and are not on public land and they pass constitutional muster.”. Would it bother you if brought ny laun chair, wearing my thong swimming suit and spent a couple of hours sitting in front of your house this weekend? The Jewish no longer use stoning. YOU NEVER get the truth. Here in the largely Muslim community of East Dearborn Michigan, hometown of our beloved hottie Miss USA Rima Fakih, you are welcome to do a little shopping here, and regardless of how you are dressed, I promise you we will not be behead you or stone you or whip you or blow you up. Also, the caricature of a Jew as a money-hungry little shrew is very old, cliché, and downright wrong and offensive. The community's particular social norms are reflected in a welcome sign that greets visitors to Kiryas Joel, asking them to dress modestly, use appropriate language and even "maintain gender separation in all public areas." They are not imposing anything. They have not yet ceded from the Union yet. Yo, we got that covered already, see U.S. Constitution, Amendment 1 “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,” oh btw, wrong religion they’re Hasidic Jews, they may make you feel bad but they are not mercenary and do not believe in conversations, so ya safe from them. You … are … just … like … them. Doesn’t my stomach have some kind of right not to be forcibly emptied every time I need to pick up some Cheerios?!?! For the “douchbag sitting on a curb… What is your Constitutional right that you proclaim? It’s a sign. Relax. In fact, most residents say it’s simply a polite reminder to respect the local culture, and many visitors take the signs in that spirit. Its a public property. Now I have to have a non-mainstream handbook to see whats right and wrong? If you don’t like it, stick your neck out and await the sword. you’re not very bright, are you Alec? RTFA. I frown at cars that play rap music playing at the gas station while they are putting fuel in their cars. Admit it. These people are Jewish. You are spot on correct. are u for real Appled??? Never mind, it’s not the Israeli’s. I can’t believe so many libtards can’t comprehend what a “right” is and what it isni’t…. Dave Hirsch is nebach so off base, that its futile to respond to his hateful comment…. You don’t have to through with it, and if you do choose to act otherwise, there’s no legal ramifications. I don’t agree that it violates the Constitution at all. All they’re doing is politely asking people to be respectful of their customs, and are NOT requiring them to, so, should you feel that you want to, you can ignore it. A reminder of how to show respect is great. We had bigoted people, but they were in the minority. This, however, is a community of free citizens making a polite requrest of visitors. Pace “Please curb your dog, shoes and shirts for service…” Raffi you sound like you are from Ramat Aviv. Alec, please read the article carefully. Engagement of Eli Goldberger to Chavy Flohr. Problem solved. You are a hate-filled, small-minded person, Glenda. They’d love to do the same thing here if they could. You have no idea what you are talking about, so shut it! You and “The Truth” (LOL) have verbatim comments. “It’s nice to request that people behave in a way respect to their beliefs,” said Barry Kaufmann of Wantagh. Hows that hope and change working for ya? That being said, the people of this town have every right to ask anything of anyone, just as the non-residents have every right to wear whatever they want when visiting, just as the residents have every right to “scowl” at the visitors. Welcome to AMERICA if you want to be “back home” then go there if it’s so great. If you do not like the town of KJ, then why go there? Or are you just assuming they are liberal to champion your own personal set of political values? That is not healthy. Thank you Colorado. I’m sick of people who constantly say that others are trying to shove a belief down their throat and turn around and say that the perpetrators should hold the same belief they do. November 19, 2020 LostMessiah Kiryas Joel, Rabbi Aaron Teitlebaum, Satmar Kiryas Joel, Rabbi Aaron Teitelbaum, Rabbi Berel Lazar, Satmar Chief Rabbi of Russia Berel Lazar paid a visit to the Kiryas Yoel meat processing plant on Sunday, in a visit arranged by … Violate Moslem custom and you risk being stoned, whipped, blown up, or beheaded. The town has no way to enforce these requests. You’d love it if others would “comply” with the wishes presented in your post. give me a break Yonason- in your twisted world ANYONE who says anything not in line with your Jewish view is anti-Semitic. It’s one step closer to Hilter wanting things “his” way. The bankers are ROBBING you blind. If you wore pants to church, people would shun you. The sign also says no coarse language and to try to maintain a distance between the sexes addiotionally i am sure that they would not like certain t shirts you see these days that guys wear with cussing on them. ©2020 CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved. This Rabbi stressed two things, Jewish learning and “mentchleheit.” In the Jewish tradition, a mentch is someone who does the right thing no matter what. You are free to dress as you please as long as you have the courage to deal with the cross looks that you might receive. The other shows a complete void of culture or common sense to support a mistaken notion of personal freedom. Lily’s comment was TOTALLY tongue-in-cheek! What is worse than a bigot is a race, religion or group that declares any action or word off limits for those that are not of that race, religion or group……. Think about it, people. This is no different. The human body is an abomination and an occasion of great sin. NO loitering on the corners waiting for a white van to pick you up for a days work. WOW. There is NO legal recourse if you don’t. At any rate, this is a town in AMERICA. The they you so scornfully mention are Jews and using the term “they” shows your anti-Semitic hatred of “US” and the freedom we have “HERE” in the USA. This site was opened to expose the corrupted and fraudulent actions of the religiously controlled Kiryas Joel Village, NY. . That’s KJ….they make their own rules and apply them as they see fit. There are no consequences. second, just for arguments sake, assuming your a ben torah ,a yiras shomayim and you wouldnt want you or your family to be exposed to indecent sights, what would you do if a few women started walking around bikinie clad in your neighborhood? What I would “personally like to see” is an opinion from you not a grammar lesson. advertising agencys have their limit as how far they could go and if they pass that line there is a outcry from modest people without them being called talibans Problem solved. I would not try to be disrespectful but this is America and I have freedoms. Are you talking about this article or Liberals? I am sorry! This is not discrimination against men or women, they are just asking that people shopuld act in public in many ways how people in the 1940’s -fifties suburbia acted in america. No one will be stoned or beheaded for shorts and a tank top. I do not physically enforce these standards on others because the standards are not law. @ Dave C – THEY’RE NOT IMPOSING ANYTHING! If you want to criticize the grammar of another, then perhaps you’d better learn some yourself. Harriet, The request in this town has no backing of the govt; it is only a request and there is no punishment for not doing it. No, that would be Muslim and this is Jewish. I live in California a very liberals state. And don’t call me anti-semetic as a defense mechanism. Bus drivers don’t intervene because they’re scared of the rabble. The streets naked to look at it anywhere she wants to show it off wrong. Fundamentalist beliefs trampling our civil rights proud of in someone ’ s only a request... 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